Andrea wait /. I do n't agree with that /. If you look at every poll who do the American people have more faith in in terms of Iraq /? It 's the Democrats /. Who do the American people /- Do they want to see a change in direction in Iraq /? Absolutely /. But Senator /- And I think they respect the fact that Democrats do have divisions And are debating this And not just marching in lockstep to whatever the President does Because they 're not happy with what the President is doing /. This debate that Chuck and I are having /- And that 's going to help us /. This debate that Chuck and I are having is likely to be the big issue in the fall campaign /. We 're going to have this debate with the American people /. Speaking of debates and rivalries Roll Call Newspaper reports Senator Schumer that you and your fellow New York senator Hillary Clinton have such an intense rivalry that this week you and Harry Reid your Democratic leader rather tried to exclude her from a news conference to announce one of her pet issues /. um Is it that intense the rivalry between you and Hillary Clinton /? No it 's absolutely journalistic chatter /. Ted Kennedy 's been our leader on minimum wage /. Hillary Clinton came up with a great idea Tie minimum wage to the pay increase /. So why did n't you schedule the news conference when she could show up /? and Harry Reid /- As we did /. And she showed up /. And then we had another one where she showed up /. Harry Reid as our leader has done a very good thing here /. He has said that as a party we 're going to support Hillary 's idea that there be no pay raise until there 's a minimum wage increase /. And we 've had two news conferences . um with Hillary Ted Kennedy Harry and myself /. It 's worked out extremely well /. Let me cut to the chase here /. If she announces that she 's running for president will you do what is customary and support your fellow New York senator for president of the United States /? Is that what /- Hillary Clinton is running for the Senate of the United States of New York /. She is doing a great job running /. We spent all day Friday together going through the flood uh torn areas /. Will you support her for president if she chooses to run for president /? And she is focused on New York /. I will wait till after she wins for the Senate to decide what to do /. But if she announces that she 's going to run for president will you support her /? Well let 's let her announce first /. All right /. Well we 're going to have to leave it right there /. Thank you very much /. Thank you /. Senator Schumer Senator McConnell /. and happy Independence Day to both of you /. Thank you /. Same to you /. And coming next freedom of the press versus national security /. Our round table with radio host and author Bill Bennett William Safire of The New York Times Dana Priest of The Washington Post and John Harwood of The Wall Street Journal /. All coming up on Meet the Press /. Our round table on balancing press freedoms and national security after this brief station break /. Welcome all /. Well first the firestorm over leaks /. uh For years the President and the Treasury have been trumpeting their success in following terror money /. So Bill Bennett what is the harm in what The New York Times and other newspapers did last week in publishing their stories /? Well there are a lot of people who are saying there 's a lot of harm /. Ask the Undersecretary of the Treasury Stuart Levy who is very upset about it /. Ask the Secretary of the Treasury departing secretary Secretary Snow /. Ask Tom Kean and Lee Hamilton the co-chairmen of the Nine Eleven Commission /. They 're not exactly Bush uh uh camp followers /. Tom Kean said in an interview , he said , a very successful program which has been very successful in the war against terror has been lost compromised because of this /. Well is n't it true that in fact this program was hinted at in the Nine Eleven Commission report /? And both NBC analyst Roger Cressey who is a former national security official and his fellow former NSC officer Richard Clarke said that no harm was done /. Let 's look at what they wrote in The New York Times about this /. Wildly overblown are the Bush administration 's protests that the press revelations about the financial monitoring program may tip off the terrorists /. They want the public to believe that it had not already occurred to every terrorist on the planet that his telephone was probably monitored and his international bank transfers subject to scrutiny /. How gullible does the administration take the American citizenry to be /? Bill Safire does the press have an obligation /- Well /- is that it /? Is that it for me /? No /. Stand by /. I want to ask Bill Safire to weigh in on this /. Well here we are /- Bill Does the press have an obligation to print or not in this case /? And were they giving away state secrets /? Look uh I do n't speak for the Times /. I 've been in the Times for thirty years disagreeing with Times editorial policy right down the line /. On this one I think they did the right thing /. Here we are on Independence Day weekend Two hundred and thirty years ago celebrating what was the resistance to a king who said we 're going to hang you for treason /. And here we have a Long Island congressman happens to be named King who 's saying treason and put these reporters in jail /. uh I think there 's a big fundamental thing going on here now uh and uh across the board of get the press get the media /. And uh look I used to write speeches for Spiro Agnew /. uh uh uh I 'm hip to this stuff /. uh uh and I can say that it gives you a blip /. uh it gives you a chance to get on the offensive against the darned media /. But uh in the long view of history it 's a big mistake /. But is it the /-